We Are PoWEr Podcast
The We Are PoWEr podcast spotlights voices and perspectives that need to be heard. Our weekly podcast, with listeners in over 60 countries, delivers PoWErful conversations that inspire, challenge, and empower... from personal life stories to business insights and leadership lessons.
We share diverse experiences, bold discussions, and real solutions. Whether you're looking for career advice, topical themes, or stories of resilience and success - this is where voices spark change.
We Are PoWEr Podcast
End of Year Special with Dr Penny Trayner (aka DJ Penny PoWEr)
This end-of-year special looks at what 2025 has really taught us across business, health, public services, and our wider Northern PoWEr Women community.
We reflect on a full year of Northern PoWEr Women activity, from the Awards Roadshow , where Dr Penny stepped confidently into her new alter-ego, DJ Penny PoWEr, to reading 1,800 nominations that showed the scale of impact being created in every sector.
And as we close out the year, we’re already preparing for a major milestone: the 10th anniversary of the Northern PoWEr Women Awards on 12th March 2026!
This episode leaves you with one clear, practical takeaway: implementation intentions, a simple tool to help you follow through when motivation dips... plus a final send-off with Penny and Simone on the DJ decks.
In this episode:
- What this year’s 1,800 Award nominations revealed
- Behind the judging, the roadshow, and why celebration still matters
- Confidence from trying something new (including DJing!)
- A simple networking approach that saves time and energy
- The 10th anniversary Awards coming in March
- Implementation intentions and how to put them into practice
- How to take 2025’s lessons into 2026 with focus and momentum
Find out more about We Are PoWEr here. 💫
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SPEAKER_00:Well, welcome to the end of season special.
SPEAKER_01:I cannot believe we've got here. It's nearly the end of 2025. How has that happened?
SPEAKER_00:Wow. Well, we are gonna take this episode to have a little cheers and a little toast. Because why not? Why not? And we've got we've got builders too as well if we want that. Of course. But we're gonna take a little look back because quite frankly, Dr. Penny Power, trainer, um, neuropsychologist, DJ, award winning. I mean, what would be the one song that would sum up your year?
SPEAKER_01:Oh, now that is a tough, right? That is uh, yeah. That's a really, really tough one. Gosh, Simone might have to come back to that one with you. It's okay.
SPEAKER_00:But that's we'll come back to, we'll close out because you never know, we might even play that.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say, let's get that track on because um because there's a couple of big themes we've had this year. I think it's been a tough year for everyone, but it's also for me been a really like inspirational year. I've taken huge inspiration from the people that I've met and just what they're doing and how they're keeping going in really tough times. Um, and a lot of that has been with you guys on the Northern Power Women Road show.
SPEAKER_00:Well, you have been as much part of the team this year, having a lot of fun, haven't we? Oh my god, open the Northern Power Women Awards earlier this year in London. What an awards! Three celebration events, we've leads it, we've Manchestered it, we've got and we've YI. Why absolutely phenomenal over in Newcastle on that fantastic terrace? What an evening that was over there. But you have been as much and equally closing out the year as well, judging.
SPEAKER_01:I mean yes, gosh. It's not mission easy, is it? It's not mission easy. Um, it's as ever the most one of the most emotional kind of couple of weeks of my life listening to all of these stories, listening to the videos. But what I really love about that judging is just the representation across all sectors. You sit in that room and we've got everyone is from everywhere, and we're really authentic in the way that we we pick our winners, really. And it's tough competition. It's arm wrestling stuff, isn't it? It's arm wrestling stuff, but you know what? It's all open to everyone. Everyone can be a success with the Northern Power Women, and I just love that about it.
SPEAKER_00:And it's it's a very robust process, isn't it? And and you know, there's a lot of reading that goes into it. 89 judges, 1800 nominations. It has been, you know, and I think like you said earlier, it's been it's been a tough year. So to get those 1800 nominations and to read those stories, every story's different. Absolutely. Every lived experience, every person is a role model to someone. And so I've I'm a massive, I'm gonna, we're gonna do a lot of cheers in today, to be honest. You know, what could go wrong? What could go wrong with all? A nice little mimosa there for for anyone, or or maybe orange juice, who knows? Who knows? That's okay. It's after five o'clock. We're fine. Absolutely, but there's a there's a whole bit in there that if it wasn't for that individual who put their fingers to that keyboard to recognise that person, to voice memo, you know, to vote, you know, audio nominate, just to celebrate and recognise. And I think this year we've needed that. And I think we've really needed to unearth some of those stories because the the geopolitical situation without getting into you know, into down that rabbit hole, but it's been tough. I think it's been tough all round. What has helped you thrive this year?
SPEAKER_01:Do you know what? It's the people that I work with that really do drive me forward. Um, I'm really privileged to work in health because actually, when you work with people that have had really, really traumatic experiences in their lives, it's a real privilege just to show up for them and be present for them and deliver the best that we absolutely can. But that's been tough because services are being squeezed left, right, and centre. Um, and I think people have really, really felt it this year. I think we all talked about this economic crisis impending last year, but actually, this has been the year that people have really felt the pinch. Um, so I've had to keep going because actually everyone has had to keep going. And as you know, Simone, one of my big things is that I've got a lot of um, I guess, inner light that I've gained through a lot of work and life experiences, and I'm I'm happy to share that light as much as I can. And that's really what keeps me going, just kind of trying to inject a bit of hope and positivity into people's worlds at a time when things are quite bleak for a lot of people, but also we're being bombarded with it, right? We need some positive messaging. So this is why I'm really looking forward to being at the awards next year because it's a celebration of everything that is going really, really well. Um, everything that's great and good, and reminds us that actually the world is still moving forward and things are still happening, and people are doing incredible things under difficult circumstances.
SPEAKER_00:It's been a bat of relief, I think, as well, because sometimes you just think, oh, are people a bit kind of downtrodden a little bit and a little bit defeated? So when you see that and you read that, and every year we have new judges as well, which come into the mix, which is always um always brilliant to see in them going, flipping eczemo, that was really tough. And I always say, you know what, this is not northern flaky women, right? Absolutely. This is not northern flaky women, and you will know the wonderful Paul Callie Grover who you judged with last year, if I remember rightly. And we were all live in person, and I don't know why I'd never thought of this, considering we were in Newcastle only a few months ago, home of Greg's. Oh, you know, one of the one of the staples of of the UK, right? And he went, you need to be working with Greg's more because then it would definitely not be northern flaky women. And I'd never thought of that. How had I never thought of a brilliant collab? I mean, literally, we have to Rasheen. If any of you know Rasheen Curry, CBA, we're looking to do an event with them next year, which are really exciting. But I'd never join the dots. Never join the dots on Northern Power Women and Greg's. Come on, it's gonna happen, right?
SPEAKER_01:That's a collab we all want to see, so let's make it happen. Although I think maybe the the pie is that at the awards ceremony may not be doesn't work well with lip gloss, does it? Let's face it. And yeah, the dresses, you know, we want to be careful. Exactly. No, but the after show. The after show. Let's talk about the after show.
SPEAKER_00:So what a year, what a year, and it was your fault.
SPEAKER_01:I was gonna say we had a bit of a guest DJ last year, I believe. So, um, and we'll have a little look at that in a bit, I think. Because uh but how are you getting on with your DJing career, Simone?
SPEAKER_00:You know, it was I mean, one of the big things this year was doing the DJ lessons thanks to you. It was my lovely, lovely friend Sonia Bates' um big birthday, uh, 21 again. Happy birthday, Sonia. And it was under your recommendation that I booked DJ lessons that I got the opportunity to go to. And I had real doubt as to whether I could do it because I can't hear. I can't hear the beats. I can't hear the thing. You struggle to catch me. Struggle with it. So you have to be really intentional. So that was one of the big skills that I learned this year was to allow myself a space in that room to not just press buttons and do a bit of that wizzy stuff. Now you can't see me. If you're watching on the if you're watching, you can see me do that. But if you listen on the podcast, you have no idea what I've just done with my hands.
SPEAKER_01:But anyway, looking like she's doing the 6-7 there a little bit, but the other way around. It was a bit of a, yeah, that kind of works. So yeah, yeah. You're making it work, TikTok next month.
SPEAKER_00:100%. But there's something about being in that room and being really mindful about those tunes. Wonderful. And I loved it. So then on the night, being able to do guest spot on your after show party, when and the funny, it was when I looked around and people were suddenly doing that double take, going, Simone's DJing, including my mother, going she can't hear this stuff.
SPEAKER_01:So I was extremely impressed. You know what, Simone, what I love about you is actually, you know, you're at that stage of you're still learning and you're still at the beginner stage, but you're actually like, if I don't put myself out there and do things that are challenging and difficult, then who am I to be kind of standing up and um being part of the power organization? I need to lead from the front. Um, I just thought it was incredible. And I think it is just a testament to your like tenacity and courage that you're like, I'm doing it. None of us are gonna remember by tomorrow, but it's all good.
SPEAKER_00:And the funny thing, I went, oh, and of course, if I'm in, I'm all in, right? So often went, you know, I couldn't afford the technics kit, you know, I couldn't afford that other brands available, of course. Uh unless you do want to sponsor partner, we'd have you, it's all good. Um, I went to Argos. Um, you know, uh, tried and tested. And when I was packing my stuff for the awards, because we we head up to Manchester the night before to get because it's an early start. There is nothing better than I love than 7am on site, if not earlier, with my high viz, high viz there watching the Arctic unload all the stuff because it's it's a complete big experience. And and so there I've got my beautiful dress, my beautiful shoes, makeup, and DJ in the hotel room, having a little because you suddenly think, oh, I don't be stupid, I don't want to just fake it. I love that. I want to, you know, so yes, so um that, yeah, I would say that's probably um a question for myself. One of the things I'd be proud of this year was to actually do that because it would have been easy not to do it.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely, and that's what it's all about, isn't it? About kind of thinking, what's something that's just going to challenge me personally? And that is different for everyone. And it's really interesting at this time of year. I think we're always kind of wrapping up and thinking about what's been good, what's been different, what would I change. Um, actually, I've had a great year. Um, lots of really great things have happened, lots of really challenging things have happened. But actually, I think overall we should be proud that we are here, we're sitting here, we're talking about it, and we still have the means and the capacity to be able to reach out and try and help other people. So good for you for leading the way with that.
SPEAKER_00:What's been your big learn then this year?
SPEAKER_01:I think one of the big my biggest learnings is to lean into people um that can support me. You know, I've had a couple of times this year when I've just not been as available. I've had other things going on in my personal life, which meant that I've had to really lean into my teams. They've all been incredible. And it just kind of reminds you really that actually you're not alone. And actually, it's okay sometimes to to reach out for support. It's always okay to reach out for support, but you know, women like us, Simone, we we sometimes are the people that just get on with it. Um and I know you've got an incredible team around you as well that also support you and keep you going. Um, but we need to lean into those networks more and realize, and I think this is what the power network is all about, really, of just knowing that actually there is a network there that we can all plug into. You've got your mentorship programs. You know, Simone, I think you're the person that, like, if anyone wants to meet anyone, you've got them somewhere in your, you know, your little black book or your spreadsheet, ginormous spreadsheet it is by now. And you make those connections. And I've made loads of those connections this year. You know, I'm DJing this year at um the KPMG Christmas party, first time they've ever had a DJ. And that came from us doing that incredible event um just what a few months ago. Well, actually, quite a few months, about six months ago now. Um, so those opportunities, those doors open when we say yes and we go along to stuff and we lean into our network and go, actually, all the expertise and the support we need is often there right in front of us. We just need to reach out and ask for it.
SPEAKER_00:And do you know what? That's one of the things I love about the community more than anything is that it's the FOMO that I get along the way and think, hold on a minute, hold on a minute, where's my invite, Chris Stark? KPM Tree Company. But I love that because I always, you know, I always think we are, it doesn't sound very sexy at times, but it we're a hub, you know? It's it's a hub. It's a hub and it's designed to to rotate and it's designed to move, it's not designed to be just this network and nowhere else. Absolutely not. It's a community and it should thrive and it should evolve and it should collab and it should do all of those things. Um, but I still get FOMO, yeah. Because but then you go, oh my gosh, that's I feel really proud. That's some that's spun off. I know you are, I know it means a lot to you. Because you just never know. Yeah, we always talk about, you know, at every event, speak to three people uh that you've not met or not spoken to. What are the three actions you're gonna take from today? And what are the three people or three things you're gonna tell tomorrow? Because you can't just go to an event or an awards or a uh a meeting and then just walk away. It's what follows on from that. So, yeah, what should we ask people to do today? It's the same three by three by three.
SPEAKER_01:I think so. I think so. And I think I think do it even more, do it everywhere you can, because actually, you know, you never know the people you meet on trains, I mean me and you are those people that are chatting to me. But you know, I've met some incredible people. But that's what these badges are for, right?
SPEAKER_00:This basically says we are northern and we talk to strangers.
SPEAKER_01:We talk to strangers, you're gonna fit, you're gonna have a good time, you know. Ultimately, you know, you get a lot further when it comes to speaking to when you speak to other people. But I know that for a lot of people that's really difficult. Yeah. So I think what this this hub, what this network is about, is joining those dots and finding those kind of voices, amplifying them, but just letting other people know where those connections can exist. And I'm sure it's not just me, I'm sure actually if we did a survey of all these different people that have met up at all the events, that there's all sorts of business connections, personal connections that have happened and grown because of this hub.
SPEAKER_00:And and it was great this year when we did the session over in Leeds and there was a young one called uh Suki who came around, she was on our future list many years ago, and then she'd come in the day and then she came back in the night and she brought her daughter with her, you know, and it was it and it's that it's that going, right, what can I do? How can I get involved? How can I make those connections? It's it's that, isn't it? And we can all be like you, you know, we we all need help at times.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely, you know, and and when times are tough, that's when we we need the help even more. But actually, that's when a lot of us tend to shut down and retreat into ourselves. So actually, it's just but it's it's asking for help in the right way. And I know that sometimes we don't always have the name for that or the voice for that. So it's just kind of finding those kept connections and and making it make sense. I also remember at that event in Leeds, I think there was someone that had just literally started work that day, and I just thought, how incredible this is your first day at work. Um she wasn't even due to come, was she?
SPEAKER_00:I saw her outside by the lift, and you know, don't look, don't load it for long because we've got you in, right?
SPEAKER_01:You made eye contact, you're coming in. But you know, it's just kind of those opportunities. How great if you're coming into a workplace for the first time and you're invited to be part of something like that. And I just remember how like welcoming her colleagues were, and I just thought, how wonderful is this? And hopefully, you know, I'm sure that that's the same for everyone that comes to start in their organization. But I just looked at that person and thought, that's someone that's gonna stay, that's someone that feels valued and seen.
SPEAKER_00:She was allowed as well, because sometimes it's about am I allowed to be here? Am I the right the level of that? No, everyone's well for everyone. And what would you say? So there's someone who's maybe not been in that room or hasn't been told uh or or been advised to come to one of these events, and not just our events, but you know, lots of other um events and communities out there, but someone who just thinks, I'm a little bit, I'm either introverted or I'm a bit afraid, or I'm busy. The worst four-letter word in the world, right? Isn't it? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely. Time and busy, they can be our enemy. How do we make that happen? Because it's easy not to, isn't it?
SPEAKER_01:It's really easy not to. It's like, you know, especially when the long dark nights come in, everyone finishes work, the thing you want to do is just get home, get in your pajamas, you know, watch a couple of soaps, and that's it. But actually, are those things going to help further you? Are those things going to help take you forward so that when you start in January and you come back to work, that you've got kind of a load of appointments booked in or a load of events or activities or things you want to do? So it's really thinking strategically. And I do think that there is a risk sometimes with networking and events that you can be super busy and it not being that kind of quality connection or kind of anything that's a learning journey. And so I think choosing strategically the events you go to, but programming them in your diary. Yeah. If you've got the Northern Power Women Awards on the Thursday night, take the Friday morning off. Don't do what I did last year and uh attempt to get yourself in because I thought, oh, it's only up the road, I'll be absolutely fine. I did get in. Uh this year I'm taking the next day off. But it's just being strategic and like everything, um, we should plan things and be intentional about it. You mentioned about being intentional, and actually, nothing happens by accident. Um, you know, all the things that we all, the fantastic things we all do in our lives, we put effort into. So you just got to decide where where's your energy got to go? Where do you want it to be? Where do you see your life next year? And what steps, even if they're small steps, can you start taking now that are gonna help land you where you want to be?
SPEAKER_00:I think that intentionality is is key. That's I think that um has probably been a bit of a soundtrack for my year, if you like, in that. And one of the things I got involved with, you know, I'm part of my whole human towers climbing, you know, and that was really full on this year. You know, two days training a week. So I'm part of a human towers climbing team. It's out in Tarragona in in in northern uh Catalonia, and it's and I'm learning Catalan, but you know, it's it's a year of learning, but but there's there was something about being part of that community and and committing to it, absolutely, and I and and and I am a bit of a min, I'm all in kind of thing. And so, you know, having just come back at the end of this year, um, a few weeks ago, had the final party of the year that we went to, and it's it's feeling really valued to be part of that community and also the learns from it, the learn that Catalan is not my first language, or or you know, it's and the struggle to to acquire something, it makes you realise how challenging it is for other people to absolutely but knowing that I can still be understood and understand beyond language, I think has been a real learn for me this year. And the the other one for me was going to Ideas Fest in the middle of a muddy field in Tring in Hertfordshire, but allowing myself the time, diarising it, putting on there and doing it, and that was something that I had to again be all in on, and the learn I had from that, the people I met at that, and it was it was almost like it was like the Glastonbury of uh like founders. Wow, you know, it's highly recommended, it was wonderful. What have been your big sort of highs for this year? The things that you want, you know, I'm so glad, other than obviously the celebration event, roadshows, and every MPW. All of that, but what have you what have you ring fest ring fenced for yourself that you've gone? You know what? That was epic.
SPEAKER_01:Well gosh, there's been a lot of exciting stuff coming up, and actually, probably the biggest thing that I've got coming up is coming up in just under two weeks' time. So I've got a TEDx talk. Um this year I've been um delighted to be selected to present as part of TEDx Trafford, um, which has special meaning for me because it actually was where I started my career in clinical psychology. It was my first ever role as an assistant psychologist, age 21. Obviously, you know, only a mere couple of years ago. And uh and so, you know, preparing for that has been incredible because as you know, I do quite a lot of public speaking. I don't have any issues usually in speaking. That's one of my probably one of my top strengths. Um but speaking for Ted is like a completely different experience. I'm used to uh, you know, talking to academic audiences, talking to clients, doing teaching sessions, talking to students, but actually now I'm talking to the world. Yeah. And it's finding a way to share your message in a way that actually is um, like you say, intentional but also accessible. Yes. So, you know, it's kind of having to take all this, not taking, taking all the jargon out of it and getting to the heart of what we're trying to talk about and really trying to have an emotional connection with the audience, which is not something you necessarily do in other aspects of public speaking. So I have loved it.
SPEAKER_00:And it has to translate cultures. So by the time this pod comes out, you will have done it, right? Yes, of course.
SPEAKER_01:So what great odds, right?
SPEAKER_00:So so well, I don't know whether you you know, but I was a TEDx licensee for five years. I did not know that TEDx Whitehall women, I was the licensee. So I ran that for five years from gosh, wherever, wherever we are now. My last one was 2000 and are we 12, I think. Wow. But I had amazing opportunities. I would not have been part of um the Human Towers in Tarragona had I not met Augusti, who was the licensee for TEDx Tarragona. So you never know, you never know. I don't think I would have set my own business up if I hadn't gone through TED and organised that. And I know big high fives to Martina Witter, who's the licensee for TEDx. She's been incredible. Phenomenal. So, what will you have spoken about? Because when I used to work with speakers for TEDx, I used to say, okay, so it can't be that because you've already talked about that. What's the bit you're gonna drill down into? So can you give us a sneak advanced because it'll all be out, right?
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely. So I guess one of the things I really want to focus on. So the the theme of TEDx Trafford is about rooted and rising. So it's about how our personal roots and our personal experiences have led us to where we are now in terms of our approach, our careers, our profession. So I'm really gonna talk about being a third culture kid, which you recognize as Simone.
SPEAKER_00:And when we spoke the last time about 18 months or so ago when Penny was last on the uh the podcast, that's exactly what we talked about. And that's the first I'd ever heard about it. No spoilers now, so you'll just have to go back and check out the other pod, and also Penny's TEDx.
SPEAKER_01:Absolutely, absolutely. But you know, being a third culture kid, and I'll let everyone have a little look at what that looks like, it's something that Simone recognises as well. Um, you know, it makes you really adaptable and really flexible and really quite able to move in lots of different ways, but it also helps you feel very grounded wherever you are, I think. So I'm gonna be talking about that, and I'm gonna be talking about a little tiny psychological technique that anyone can use. I'm giving it away completely for free. There's my 20-year career. Um and it's so I and the idea is to help people be more intentional in their interactions, particularly with young people. Because as you know, Simone, one of my big passions is about young people, and I'm still one of our goals for this year is to talk to you about the Northern Power Girls because you know those are a lot of them around. There's a lot of them around, and I think that um all these mums bringing all their and these dads bringing all their children to all our events, it's it's incredible.
SPEAKER_00:And of course, Enola, who is now She is nearly three, she'll be a good one. Yeah, started her own business, no, yeah, but but we started talking about northern power girls, didn't we? So it because it's it's critical, right?
SPEAKER_01:It's critical, and what we were kind of talking about was the fact that actually you need to see these role models early on. Um, we spend a lot of time thinking about it in psychology because in clinical psychology it's not really representative of the the diversity of the true population. We only get um a certain actually reach other people and let them know we're out there and they can study in this. And it's kind of too late by the time you get to A level because you've already selected what you're doing with your life. We want to get in there with young people, we want to get in there in primary school, in secondary school, in high school. When the stereotypes are formed, right? Absolutely. And and let them know that there are other pathways, do these mentoring sessions, get them involved, and let them know that actually there's lots of things you can do that that can change your life right now.
SPEAKER_00:And that's one of the things I'm always most proud about this community. It ever anytime we do any one of our power-ups, which is like speed mentoring, or whether we do them live or online, never short of people who want to give that hour. That give that hour to give back, pass on the skills, the knowledge, the mistakes, you know, all of that down there is so important that we pass that on. So I'm gonna now get you to delve into the power jar. What is the power jar? I hear you ask. What is the power jar, Simo? The power jar is the jar of fun. So one of the things if it's a forfeit, I'm out already, just so you know. Well, it all depends. Okay, it depends, you know, with you know, it's it's all it's all luck. So all right. So the power jar is full of questions from our previous guests. Oh, I love this. Yeah. So you never know what you're gonna get. Okay. Life is like a box of chocolates, right?
SPEAKER_01:This is wonderful. Okay. Ooh, I love this. So you have one wish for 2026. And what is it? Gosh. Yeah, that's we've probably just covered it, right? Yeah, that's that's a big one. But yeah, I would like to see us doing a little bit more with the Northern Power Girls. Um, I just would like to see kind of the world feeling a little bit more invigorated. I think it has been a real struggle. So my one wish is that everyone's a lot happier and feels a lot less under pressure and under stress. And if there's ways that we can influence that positively, that's I'm all here for that.
SPEAKER_00:So And you know, one of the ways to positively influence anything is spinning some tunes, right?
SPEAKER_01:Spin some tunes.
SPEAKER_00:So I think uh we seamlessly take a break and you never know what might happen. Yeah. Watch the space.
SPEAKER_01:Um, one thing though, to finish off with Simone, that I want to leave you with as a gift, because I always try to leave you guys with a little psychology tip that's something that everyone can use. One of the reasons that people fail to do the things that they want to do is because they have um sort of half-form plans and they lack what we call in psychology implementation intentions. So, for example, if I'm gonna go to the gym tomorrow, realistically, I need to get my gym kit out tonight. I need to pack my bag, I need to check that I've got petrol in the car, I need to check all of those things need to be in place. And then when I wake up in the morning, I'm good to go. If I don't do those things, I'm already creating barriers for myself, which mean I get up in the morning and go, oh well, I've got to find my kit, or the car's not charged, or the car's not got enough petrol in it, all these, oh well, I'll go back to bed. And it becomes a way of not doing things or being defeated in things. But actually, if you can put in place those implementation, um implementation intentions, just like you did with your DJing, be intentional about it. That is how we get things done. So, anyone that's there that's looking at their gym timetable right now and thinking, how am I gonna get there? Get your diary out, schedule it, think realistically, where is it gonna fit and how am I gonna get myself there? And what do I need to do to make sure I'm prepared to make sure I go?
SPEAKER_00:And embrace whatever way you do you, right? Post it not on the mirror, voice memo, put it in your calendar, chat with your agent on your GPT or whatever it may be. Absolutely. You do you right. There's no one set route to do it. So well, cheers to your top tip and cheers for a great 2026 ahead. 2026. Cheers to you, and cheers to you.